just about ten minutes or so ago jesse jackson jr. and his wife, sandy, actually arrived here at the courthouse and as you mentioned he is expected in about an hour and a half or so to plead guilty. he faces one count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud, wire fraud and making false statements, and this carries a maximum penalty of about five years with a $250,000 fine and it will ultimately be up to the judge to decide how much time if any he actually will have to serve. also his wife is facing a separate charge of making, filing false tax returns. her hearing is later on this afternoon. she resigned from her post as city council alderman in chicago last month. i got to tell you, carol, what a fall from grace for this family and the legacy of the family, the jesse jackson name, obviously the son of the reverend jesse jackson so we will see in a matter of hours what their fate is but i can tell you that their defense attorneys and both the couple they're going to try really hard that if jesse jackson jr. ends up going to prison that at